CL Talk

Luca Citton and Marti Phillips on the hiring shift AI is forcing on law firms

Jul 03, 2026

   

What should law firms be hiring for in an era when AI can handle the work that once defined a junior associate's first years? In this episode of CL Talk, Tim Wilbur sits down with Luca Citton, president of Boughton Law in Vancouver and board chair of Meritas, and Marti Phillips, who leads the legal technology program at the global firm network, to explore how legal talent strategy needs to change – and why most firms are still behind.  Citton introduces the concept of "lawyer fluidity" – a lawyer's ability to move between legal work, business, technology, and client relationships – and explains why Boughton Law has already shifted its recruitment criteria and rebuilt its mentorship program around it. He also reflects on what law schools are still failing to teach, and shares the moment a ChatGPT demonstration at a Meritas annual meeting changed how he thought about hiring entirely.  Phillips brings a global view from her work across Meritas member firms, offering a frank assessment of where the profession stands and what the firms actually getting this right have in common. Her advice to managing partners who feel overwhelmed: start by taking a breath.

Samsung's Sahil Razdan on AI, ad tech and privacy by design

Samsung's Sahil Razdan on AI, ad tech and privacy by design

Jun 24, 2026

From consent and children's data to IAB Canada's AI standards, and why legal work still needs human oversight

Lindsay Duprey on AI, e-discovery and defensible legal data

Lindsay Duprey on AI, e-discovery and defensible legal data

Jun 23, 2026

The Array Canada president on moving fast without losing judgment as evidence volumes spiral out of control

Allison Speigel on flat fees, fast decisions, and what Big Law can't match

Allison Speigel on flat fees, fast decisions, and what Big Law can't match

Jun 16, 2026

Litigator Allison Speigel joins host Tim Wilbur to talk through how a small firm uses flat-fee billing, quick decisions, and plain talk with clients to take on the country's largest firms

Erin Cowling on small firms, AI, and the freelance edge

Erin Cowling on small firms, AI, and the freelance edge

Jun 02, 2026

Flex Legal's Erin Cowling joins CL Talk on AI billing fights, the shiny-object trap, and why freelance counsel are senior strategists

Matthew Peters on the AI tools McCarthy Tétrault's lawyers are actually using right now

Matthew Peters on the AI tools McCarthy Tétrault's lawyers are actually using right now

May 26, 2026

A candid conversation with one of Canada's leading legal innovators on what AI looks like inside a major firm